Dear Adrian,
I send you these 2 pictures of the same case of the movie in the blog. Ask Miguel Angel if he’s got also pictures of that clinical case.
In that case only 1 bandage was done and removed after 8 days.
Bye
Loris
29 December 2009
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I got those pictures from Loris dec 14 and he says pictures were taken 10 days before (dec 4th)The treatment shown in the video was performed late august, this means this picture was taken 3 month after treatment. I guess excelent healing. We have started this protocol for chronic cows, hope having results short term. I agree with Gerrard may be the trick is keeping it dry for one week and then remove the bandage, let's see
adrian
Comment by Anka — 29 December 2009 @ 23:38 pm
Looks very nice, wish all mine looked like that… I'm going to try some I think which leads to next question. How do you get paid for the extra visits to look at same cow when producers are used to in and out hoof trimming.
Comment by Gerard — 4 January 2010 @ 2:03 am
good question Gerard!
It is very rare to find a farmer willing to pay twice for treating the same cow in a short delay of time. But I am more and more convinced this is really cost effective. Prevalence express real cash flow losses and it is very much linked to poor healing and in consequence chronic cows.. So lame cows and chronic cows treatment conditionate the hoof trimming program. For me the most cost effective hoof trimming program is the one based in satisfying the lame cows needs, then I organize non lame cows. The more often you go to the farm to deal with few animals the more chances has the lame cow of getting what she needs at an affordable price. I have observed in farms we visit once a week that the number of chornic cows is very low; even though lameness incidence can be high, prevalence keeps low, this means few lame cows in the farm small cash flow repercussion The bigger is the farm the easier is to do that. but how to get once a week to one 100 cows farm? if you get 5 cows in the crush every week you trim every cow an average of 2.5 times a year what seems to me OK Some cows get almost i trim7yr others can get 10), you can even trim 6 cows/visit. This can take to you around 2 hours including the time for installing and washing the chute + traveling expenses. How much you need to charge for that? May be you can manage visiting those farms once every 2 weeks and lame cows still get a non bad follow up.
adrian
Comment by Anka — 6 January 2010 @ 16:24 pm
Gerard:
In fact I think the cow of the picture got only one treatment the day the banadge video was taken, then one week later the farmer removed the bandage and applied antibiotic spray at the parlor. is it so loris?
Comment by Anka — 7 January 2010 @ 22:19 pm
Adrian, thanks for response and I completely agree, your suggestion has been my approach for our smaller herds, except prior to this discussion I've been trying to convince farmers to have me out every 6 weeks and call me in between these visits for the other lame cows. Its a struggle but some are starting to buy in, but I think I need to be on farm more often yet. I charge hourly not per cow and have a set up fee so that helps from my end, but its the perception of high cost that is peoples first response. They easily forget the cost of the lame cow.
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Comment by Gerard — 8 January 2010 @ 16:01 pm